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Japan Rail Pass

Let us just say that you're the sort of person who is obsessed with managing money to the penny, who has meticulously recorded every purchase made since she was fifteen in a Quicken document, and, let's just say that you're married to a guy who creates intricate Excel spreadsheets with built-in currency converters to manage all of the receipts accumulated during a year long trip, then this post is for you.  But, really, even if you're not that sort of person, this post is for you because, on an extended trip, $15 saved in Japan could pay for one full day of lodging and food in Thailand

The question of the day: should you buy a Japan Rail Pass for a trip to Japan?  The answer: it depends on your itinerary.  Generally, if you move at a moderate pace --- that is visiting a different place every four to five days --- and travel to major cities to use the Shinkansen trains, it is going to save you money.

{Full geek-out warning here: This post is going to involve numbers and assumptions and, unfortunately, very few pretty pictures . . . unless I get bored, in which case, I might try Photoshopping pictures of Chewy and Abby onto Japanese trains.} 

Japanese trains

First, what is a Japan Rail Pass?  The Rail Pass is Japan's invitation to foreigners to tour their country via the rail system.  Any foreign tourist entering as a "temporary visitor" or a Japanese national living in a foreign country is eligible to purchase a Rail Pass to sightsee around Japan. 

How much does it cost?  There are two general types of Rail Passes: ordinary and green car (first class).  We purchased ordinary passes and were surprised by the comfort in those sections of the trains.  The ordinary cars include clean restrooms at the end of each compartment and have overhead storage for medium sized bags (we fit ours above our head) and storage at the end of each compartment for larger bags/suitcases.  Most ordinary cars are in a 3-2 configuration with three seats on one side and two on the other.  The green cars are in 2-2 configurations, have more space for luggage, and are generally a bit nicer.  If you are used to flying coach, then I suggest purchasing an ordinary pass but, if you opt for first-class flights, then purchase the green pass. 

You can purchase a Rail Pass for 7, 14, or 21 days depending on the duration of your trip.

  Green Adult Green Child Ordinary Adult Ordinary Child
7-day

37,800 Yen 

($434 USD)

18,900 Yen

($217 USD)

28,300 Yen

($325 USD)

14,150 Yen

($163 USD)

14-day

61,200 Yen

($703 USD)

30,600 Yen

($352 USD)

45,100 Yen

($518 USD)

22,550 Yen

($259 USD)

21-day

79,600 Yen

($915 USD)

39,800 Yen

($457 USD)

57,700 Yen

($663 USD)

28,850 Yen

($331 USD)

 *conversion based on today's exchange rate of 87 Yen to $1 USD

What does the Rail Pass include?  The Rail Pass is your one-stop ticket to all JR lines in the country EXCEPT for Nozomi (the super-high speed Shinkansen trains), JR buses between cities (though it makes more sense to use the trains rather than the buses), and JR ferries such as the ferry from Hiroshima to Miyajima.  The Rail Pass may not be used for local city buses (such as those in Kyoto), non-JR lines (much of the subway system in Tokyo), and non-JR private railways (such as the one that we took from Nagano to Chikuma City and to other small cities.)

What sort of itinerary do I need to make the Rail Pass worthwhile?  This may make your head spin a little but this is the sort of calculus you need in order to determine whether to buy the Rail Pass.

The clasic 2-week trip:  Let's assume that you plan on doing a typical 2-week Japan itinerary: Tokyo, with a day trip to Nikko, then on to Kyoto, Nara, and Hiroshima, and back up to Tokyo.  Here is the break down of the transportation costs for this trip assuming that you don't have a JR Pass:

  Without a Rail Pass With a Rail Pass
Tokyo to Nikko 2520 Yen  
Nikko to Tokyo 2520 Yen  
Tokyo to Kyoto 13100 Yen  
Kyoto to Nara 690 Yen  
Nara to Hiroshima 10990 Yen  
Hiroshima to Tokyo 18,750 Yen  
Traveling around the cities on JR lines
(about 100 -300 Yen per trip)
about 2,500 Yen  
Ordinary JR Rail Pass for 14 days   45,100 Yen
Total 51,070 Yen 45,100 Yen

That's a tidy 5,970 Yen ($63 USD) that you are saving with the Rail Pass; enough for a sushi or kaiseki dinner.

A fast-paced 2-week trip:  If you follow the advice of the fine folks over at Frommers, you might opt for a trip through the highlights of Honshu Island that would take you from Tokyo to Nikko to Takayama to Kyoto to Nara to Mount Koya to Kurashiki to Hiroshima, winding up in Osaka for a flight back home.  Whew!  That would look like this:

  Without a Rail Pass  With a Rail Pass
Tokyo to Nikko 2520 Yen  
Nikko to Takayama 18560 Yen  
Takayama to Kyoto 8780 Yen  
Kyoto to Nara 690 Yen  
Nara to Mount Koya (Koyasan) 1770 Yen 1230 Yen*
Mount Koya (Koyasan) to Kurashiki 4760 Yen 1500 Yen*
Kurashiki to Hiroshima 4930 Yen  
Hiroshima to Osaka 10350 Yen  
Traveling around the cities on JR lines (about 100 to 300 per trip) about 2,500 Yen  
Ordinary JR Rail Pass for 14 days   45,100 Yen
Totals 54,860 Yen  47,830 Yen

*Part of this route is on a private railway

At this more hurried pace, you end up saving a bit more: 7,030 Yen ($80 USD) by buying the Rail Pass.

And, then, what we did: We started off in Tokyo but did not activate our Rail Passes until the day before we planned to leave Tokyo.  So, we went from Tokyo to Kyoto to Nikko to Nagano to Nara to Hiroshima to Aso in Kyushu Island, winding up in Fukuoka, on a 21-day pass.  We moved pretty slowly, spending 8 days in Kyoto, 3 days in Nagano, and 2 days each at the remainder of the cities, but went to some far flung destinations.  So, how did we fare?

  Without a Rail Pass  With a Rail Pass
Tokyo to Kyoto 13100 Yen  
Kyoto to Nikko 18,410 Yen  
Nikko to Nagano 10,270 Yen  
Nagano to Nara 11,970 Yen  
Nara to Hiroshima 10,870 Yen  
Hiroshima to Mount Aso 11,530 Yen  
Mount Aso to Fukuoka (Hakata Station) 5,020 Yen  
Traveling around the cities on JR lines (about 100 to 300 per trip) about 4,000 Yen  
Ordinary JR Rail Pass for 21 days   57,700 Yen
Totals 85,170 Yen 57,700 Yen

We ended up saving a whopping 27,470 Yen ($312 USD) per person because we backtracked quite a bit and went to both Honshu and Kyushu islands.  That's an awesome savings for both of us!

And, another quick itinerary:  Jess, over at To China and Beyond!, started in Osaka, then went to Kyoto, Nara, Himeji, Hiroshima, Fukuoka, Kobe, Yokohama, Tokyo, Nagoya, and back to Osaka, within two weeks.  She saved an eye-popping 34,640 Yen ($397 USD) by purchasing the Rail Pass. 

When it's all said and done, the Rail Pass is a great deal for those traveling in a limited time frame in Japan if you move at a moderate pace and/or visit destinations in different parts of the country.  [And, thanks to YokohamaTodd for helping us correct our figures and change our conclusions in this post.  Much appreciated!]

Vouchers

Vouchers

How do you buy a JR Rail Pass?  The Rail Pass must be purchased outside of Japan before you begin your trip at a participating travel agent.  If you forget to purchase it outside of Japan, then regions of Japan offer rail passes at JR stations within the country (e.g., Kyushu Pass, Hokkaido Pass) but those passes tend to be much more expensive.  Your travel agent will send you a voucher that is valid for three months.  When you arrive in Japan, you must produce your passport and the voucher to a major JR station (voucher locations are provided with the book that comes with the Rail Pass) and they will provide you with the Rail Pass that is valid for 7, 14, or 21 days from the date you turn in your voucher.

How do you use the Rail Pass?  We walked into any station, asked the agent (who often speaks English) that they make us a reservation onto the next train to wherever we were going, showed our Rail Pass at the ticket counter, and then sauntered onto the train.  We just love those efficient, comfortable Japanese trains.

How do you figure out all these calculations?  Use Hyperdia, possibly the greatest trip planning tool I have ever found for any country.

07/27/2010 10:04
I love your detailed analysis of the pros and cons of the Rail Pass. A lot of people seem to automatically assume that a pass will save them $$, but you actually put a lot of thought and effort in breaking it down.
07/27/2010 11:02
Ha, you should have posted this last week! I just bought my RailPass- got the voucher in the mail monday. I will have to do my best to make it worthwhile during my whirlwind two week trip. Challenge is on!
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07/27/2010 11:52
Nice post. You sound like me. These are exactly the same type of calculations I did before buying the RomaPass in Rome for example, spreadsheets and all. Sometimes, even if it costs a little more, it's worth it for "ease of use."
07/27/2010 12:45
Friends and I are planning a trip for the Spring so this should come in handy! I appreciate the thorough review!
07/27/2010 23:48
YokohamaTodd
I just saw your analysis while looking through Trip Advisor's Japan forums (not that I can use a railpass, since I live here...), and thought that I should correct some figures, since your analysis does not include all of the costs of traveling on the JR trains. You have only included the "ticket" price, but there is no such thing as a "standing room only" ticket, so one has to pay at least for an "unreserved" seat. However, you don't pay that fee when using a Japan RailPass. So, for example, from Tokyo to Kyoto, the basic ticket price is 7980 Yen, but the unreserved seat fee is 4730 Yen (reserved is 5440 Yen), so the total cost is 13,420 Yen. I ran the numbers on your actual trip using the reserved seat prices and while the ticket costs were 50,730 Yen, the seat fees came to 33,690 Yen, for a whopping total of 85,130 Yen. In other words, you saved about $300. You don't have to feel so bad now, since you actually saved enough money to spend a week on Koh Tao!
07/28/2010 03:20
YokohamaTodd: Thank you, thank you for correcting this. This is fantastic. I am going to go through right now and edit the whole thing to include the correct figures. Thank you so much for your help!
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07/28/2010 03:43
Thanks Eric - I guess, I'm a little obsessive that way. :)

Stephanie, now that I've corrected the figures, I don't think you're going to have a problem. As long as you use some Shinkansen rails, you should be fine.

Kristina, Absolutely. Ease of use is a huge deal!

Thanks Shannon. I'm sure y'all will have a blast in Japan.
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07/28/2010 14:36
This is an amazing resource for future travelers to Japan. Thanks for the link back to my post - I've added a link back here as well.
07/28/2010 21:05
I love your analysis. This is really helpful! And can I say 'WOW'.. didn't realize how expensive the rail can be in Japan.
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07/30/2010 10:31
This is great. My sister ended up doing the rail pass in March, as she was in Japan just a week and wanted to cover a big chunk of the country. For her, it was totally worth it (I think).
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08/13/2010 03:17
Jennifer
WOW! Thanks so much for sharing this info. i just moved to Tokyo and was researching the REAL value of the pass for my parents who will visit in October. Well done!
08/13/2010 09:30
Thanks Jess!

Thanks Amy! It is pretty expensive but, unfortunately, most of Japan is expensive.

Thanks Kristin! I think if you're going for just a week and planning to see a lot, it's a great tool.

Thanks Jennifer! Let me know if you have any further questions and I'll try to help out as best as I can.
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08/21/2010 22:05
Ambika
Brilliant post! Perfect for helping us plan our Japan trip. Thanks.
08/22/2010 17:08
norberto
hey!!! thank you for your great post. im going to japan for 23 day traveling all around the country, and i was thinking about the pass, but then i heard that bus is much more cheaper than the train, what do you think about it??? is more convinient??? or i would pay the same money than a 21 day jr pass???? thank you again fot the post
12/15/2010 20:46
Michelle
Thank you!!! This post is very helpful. I will be visiting my brother in Tokyo in Feb for three weeks and i want to take a 7 day sightseeing trip around Japan while im there... Do you have any suggestions where to visit?
12/16/2010 09:04
Michelle, thanks! For a 7 day trip in February, I think it depends on your interests. It will be really cold during that time with probably a lot of snow on the Sea of Japan side of Honshu island. If you like ancient temples and beautiful cities, I would highly recommend 3 or 4 days in Kyoto, which was our favorite city in Japan and then head down to Osaka and then Hiroshima and Miyajima for 2 or 3 days. That is the "classic" itinerary and you'll hit some of the highlights of Japan.

However, given that it is the winter time, you might prefer to go to one of the onsen/ski towns in the Japanese Alps around Nagano, which is where the winter Olympics were held. In the winter time, the Jigokudani monkeys spend a lot of time in the mineral baths. So, you could spend 3 or 4 days in Kyoto and then 3 days in the skiing region.

Either way, if you're spending 3 weeks in Tokyo, then I would suggest a day trip (maybe on a weekend) to Nikko and a day trip on another weekend to Hakone. Let me know if you have more questions - we're happy to help!
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01/04/2011 11:08
Laura
Thanks a lot for this very useful post! If I can pose you one question: I'll be doing a 14-days trip in February which will be (roughly) Tokyo - Yokohama - Kyoto - Osaka - Hiroshima - Tokyo in February. Hyperdia says the total trip would be about 418 yen which would save me about 30 yen compared to the Rail Pass. So, is it really worth it? Or am I overlooking something? I have to make my decision quite soon. I guess my other option would be to get a Suica pass for Tokyo and take slower trains around the country. I'm a student by the way so I'm happy over every penny I can save :)
01/04/2011 17:26
Laura, When I ran your itinerary through Hyperdia it was at 44,570 yen because it looks something like this: 450 + 12790 + 2930 + 10,150 + 18250 = 44570. That's still less than the 14 day pass but depending on how long you are planning on staying in Tokyo, you could just get a 7 day Rail Pass starting after you leave Tokyo. Let me know what your plan is and then I'll be able to help you out!
01/19/2011 21:03
Stephanie
Your article is so helpful. I'm one of the many travelers who is trying to wrap my head around whether to get a rail pass or not. We will be in Tokyo for 7 days and plan on staying in the general area (with the exception of a day trip to Kamakura and another to Mt Fuji). We are going Feb 1 - 8. After reading your comments, I think that since we aren't going to Kyoto or any far distances that we would be better off without the rail pass. What do you think?
01/19/2011 21:03
Stephanie, I'm so glad it was helpful! Given that you are planning on basing yourself in Tokyo and not traveling much outside of the city, I don't think the Rail Pass makes much sense because it looks like you won't be spending much more than 12,000 Yen during your trip. Have a great time in Japan!
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01/20/2011 14:14
Stephanie
Thank you SO much. That's just what I figured.
02/10/2011 00:09
Sam
Hi, my friends and I will be travelling to Tokyo-Kyoto-Tokyo-Hakone-Tokyo in April. is it worth to buy 7-days JR Rail Pass? Will spend 3 days in Kyoto and 4 days in Tokyo. Hakone is a day trip. I am not sure if we can fully utilize JR Rail Pass within Kyoto area and Tokyo area. Thank you.
02/10/2011 09:04
Sam, Yours is pretty tight. Prices run:
Tokyo to Kyoto: 13,220
Kyoto to Tokyo: 13,220
Tokyo to Hakone: 3940
Hakone to Tokyo: 3940
Which leads to: 34,320, about 6,000 above the Rail Pass cost.

So, it would be worth purchasing but ONLY if you are certain that you will go to Hakone (or do a day trip to Nara or Nikko). If you don't go to Hakone, I doubt that you would spend the remaining 5,000 Yen just traveling around Tokyo and Kyoto (especially because the JR line in Kyoto takes you to a limited number of destinations). Hope that's helpful - let me know if you need any other advice. Have a great trip!
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02/10/2011 09:07
Oops, sorry - that should have read . . . the remaining 2,000 Yen . . . not remaining 5,000 Yen.
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02/15/2011 20:29
When you first posted this, and I commented then, I had no idea I'd soon be contemplating buying a JR Pass any time soon.
We now have 8 days in Japan in April; 5 in Tokyo and 3 in Kyoto. At this point I don't know how much money a 7 day pass would save us because I don't know what side trips we will do from Tokyo or Kyoto. Any suggestions? I'm thinking Nara from Kyoto, but I don't know about day trips from Tokyo.
02/16/2011 09:32
First of all, yay for a Japan trip! I know that y'all are going to have a fantastic time. If you're doing 5 days in Tokyo and 3 in Kyoto and that's it, then a Rail Pass probably won't make sense. But, if you do a couple of day trips (for example, from Tokyo to Nikko and/or Hakone or from Kyoto to Nara or to Osaka), then the Rail Pass might save you a bit of money.
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02/20/2011 02:00
Nessa
Hi Japan Rail Pass guru - My husband and I are travelling to Japan for 9 days : Osaka - Kyoto - Nara - Kyoto - Tokyo. Is this sort of itinerary still worth purchasing the JRP? We are spending one night in Osaka, but rest of our time in Kansai will be based out of Kyoto (4 nights) and wrap things up at a wedding in Tokyo (not much sightseeing planned).
Can you also recommend any other short day trips around Kyoto (besides Nara worth visiting?).
Thanks so much!
02/21/2011 11:16
Nessa: First, LOL at being called a Japan Rail Pass guru! If you just purchase tickets separately, you'll spend about 15,020 Yen plus about 2,500 Yen in the cities themselves. If you only have 4 nights in Kyoto, though there are other day trips worth doing (for example, Himeji, Mount Koya, and Nagoya), I think you would be best off staying in Kyoto because there is a LOT to see in Kyoto itself. We spent 8 days in Kyoto and didn't see everything we wanted to because there are so many gardens, temples, and lovely neighborhoods to explore. So, I think 1 day in Osaka, 3 days in Kyoto, 1 day in Nara, and 5 days in Tokyo would be a very full trip. So, I would not recommend getting a Rail Pass. Let me know if you have any other questions!
05/30/2011 20:14
Nessa, maybe a three day Kansai pass might be worthwhile. Are you catching the train from the airport to Osaka? A pass would cover your travel from airport to Osaka, Osaka to Kyoto and Kyoto and Nara. The conveneience of just showing the pass rather than negotiating ticket booths is great, and sometimes worth the little bit extra if it all doesn't add up to a saving.
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06/06/2011 18:58
Alison, this is a great tip for future planners to Japan. Thank you so much for including it here.
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08/18/2011 04:16
Al
Folks, I will be traveling to Japan for two weeks in a couple of weeks. I'm planning to go to Tokyo, Kyoto,Osaka, and Kagoshima. Is it worth it getting the 14 days JR pass or should I pay for train fares as I go ? your help is very appreciated.
08/30/2011 09:09
Al, probably not for such a few spots. I think you'd be much better off just paying for train tickets from spot to spot.
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08/29/2011 04:48
tricia
We are planning to travel from Narita Airport, Tokyo for 3 days and down to Kyoto for 2days -will travel to Nara one day. Then up to Sendai for 6 days and back to Tokyo and fly home. We think this is worth a pass- would need robe 14 days-asking you as the guru!
08/30/2011 09:23
Tricia, You have a winner here! Tickets from Kyoto to Sendai alone cost 30,000 - 35,000 Yen so you're going to be saving a ton of money by getting the JR Rail Pass.
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09/15/2011 10:53
Fioon
Hello Akila, we're travelling to japan for 9days alight/board at tokyo. The worry of nuclear gave me a thought to skip tokyo, thus thinking to have gourmet laze around trip at the south area. So far, all forum suggested to osaka,kyoto,nara,miyajima or any other interesting place in south? In this scenario, can i say 7day pass is worth? Thanks/Fioon
09/26/2011 10:08
Fioon, Well, I'm assuming that you're going to fly into Tokyo since it's the main international airport. In that case, yes, the 7 day pass would be worth the expense. If you aren't planning on flying into Tokyo, instead flying into Osaka or Hiroshima, then I would suggest not getting it because you won't recoup your cost.
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10/01/2011 10:22
Pat
We are flying into Narita, taking train to Tokyo to board Shinkansen for Morioka, Iwate. And will be making the same return trip after 8 days. We will also probably be taking local train from Morioka to Kona. Would it pay to purchase rail pass? Everything I've read in this blog relates to Kyoto region in South rather than Iwate region in North.
10/04/2011 10:36
Pat, To get from Tokyo to Morioka one way costs around 14,450 Yen and the return will be about the same. Local trains usually aren't all that much --- somewhere around 500 yen, I would guess, so you'll be right over the mark for the Ordinary Adult ticket 7 day pass. The tricky issue is that if you are leaving from Tokyo to Morioka and then returning 8 days later (instead of within the 7 day time period), you're going to need a 14 day pass, which certainly won't be worth the expense. Given your current itinerary, I would not buy the JR Rail Pass. Hope this helps!
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10/01/2011 23:42
thymery
Hi Akila,
Thanks so much for your detail info in using JR Pass. I plan to visit Japan in mid-Dec for about 10 days, places going are Osaka, Kyoto, Hakone, Tokyo. My flight will landed at Tokyo and return back to my country at Tokyo also. I plan to stay in Tokyo for at least 4 days. I don't think I'm getting the JR Pass because it can't be use in Tokyo subway, I plan to get the Kansai Pass since it can covered areas like Osaka and Kyoto. So, should I station in Kyoto for few days to go to these places or what's your suggestion? What's the cheapest and fastest way to travel from Tokyo to Osaka or Kyoto? What's your suggestion of no. of days to stay in each of these places? Any other place that I missed around this area? This is my first time to Japan.
10/04/2011 11:18
Thymery, I agree with you that you shouldn't get to a JR Rail Pass given this itinerary. You might not even need a Kansai Pass for that matter given the few number of places you're traveling to. I would recommend just paying out of pocket. Kyoto is a phenomenal city - so much to see and do - that I think it's a great place to use as a base. It's only an hour's train ride from Kyoto to Osaka and an hour back.

So, I would recommend something as follows: 3 days in Tokyo; one day traveling to Hakone, there, and then one day to Kyoto; 5 days in Kyoto with 1 day spent as a day trip to Osaka and back; and then the last day heading back from Kyoto to Narita (about a 3 hour train ride) for you to take your flight out.
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10/04/2011 21:45
Thymery
Hi Akila,
Thanks so much for your reply. Actually, I'll prefer to go straight from Tokyo to Kyoto on the very first day I arrived in Narita Airport so that I can spent the last 4 days solely in Tokyo, including the last day before depart from there. You mentioned there is this 3 hour train ride from Narita to Kyoto, what train ride is that? Is it a direct train from the airport to Kyoto? Do you have the web site that I can visit?
10/07/2011 06:50
Ambika, I'm glad it helped!

Norberto, We didn't take too many buses since we had already purchased the Rail Pass. We took one highway bus between Nagano and the Monkey Park. The bus itself was comfortable but the fare wasn't all that cheap and it was not nearly as efficient as the train system. Again, it is going to depend on your itinerary. If you're planning on just going between Tokyo and Kyoto and not doing too much else than you're probably better off using highway buses or single-ticket trains, but if you're going to be doing a lot of traveling around the country, the Rail Pass may be your best bet. Let me know what you're thinking itinerary wise and I'll try to help you figure out the best solution.
10/07/2011 06:49
Hi Akila! Before you write off the busses, I suggest that people on a big time budget actually price out busses. They are reasonably comfortable (and efficient - like everything in Japan). The busses were always significantly cheaper than the train fare, and we took 2-3 overnight busses as well. Given the price of hostels in Japan this made a huge difference. It was three years ago, so I can't remember our precise itinerary or savings, but I think it was $500+ per person to take busses!
10/13/2011 09:20
Great info - thanks Allison!
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01/22/2012 05:49
Peter Watkins
Hi, I've come up with a rough itinerary for my trip to Japan in March/April.Do I need a 7 day or 14 day Japan Rail pass or could I get away with buying individual tickets?
Any help much appreciated!

Day 1 Arrive Tokyo late in evening.
Day 2 Tokyo
Day 3 Tokyo
Day 4 Matsumoto
Day 5 Kiso Valley Trek (overnight back in Matsumoto)
Day 6. Takayama
Day 7 Kyoto
Day 8 Kyoto
Day 9 Kyoto
Day 10 Kyoto - day trip to Arashiyama
Day 11 Kyoto - day trip to Nara
Day 12 Kyoto
Day 13 Hakone
Day 14 Nikko
Day 15 Day in Nikko. back to Tokyo PM
Day 16 Tokyo
Day 17 Fly out of Tokyo am
01/22/2012 09:57
Peter,

So, here's what your costs would roughly look like:

Tokyo to Matsumoto - 6710
Matsumoto to Takayama - 9840
Takayama to Kyoto - 9680
Kyoto - Hakone - 12050
Hakone - Nikko - 9290
Nikko - Tokyo - 2520

Totalling: 50,090 + about 3,000 Y inside the cities

So, a 14 day pass would definitely save you money if you pick it up on the last day that you leave Tokyo to ensure that your train from Nikko to Tokyo is covered under the rail pass. Hope that helps!
01/28/2012 03:41
Jeremy
I only started this article, but after only reading the first paragraph, I thought, wow, you describe me so well.
02/10/2012 20:50
barry
hey i'm going to be in japan for 8 day 21st till 29th this month.
would it be worth it to get a jr pass?
I had to book a taxi to hakuba since i wont be getting into tokyo until 5:30pm.

i 'm coming here pretty much to ski but i want to do some sight seeing to.
I'm staying in hakuba but want to make a trip to see the snow monkeys and make a day trip to hakkoda. Im pretty sure that trip alone will make the pass worth it.

and do i have to get to nagano to get on the bullet trains or can i get to hakkoda from hukuba?

thanks
02/15/2012 14:26
Barry, Assuming that you're not taking the train to Hakuba, then you're looking at something like this:

Hakuba to Nagano (near the monkeys): 2,210 Yen
Nagano to Shin-Aomori: 19,400
Shin-Aomori to Tokyo: 16,070

So, definitely it would be worthwhile getting the 7 day pass. And, you'll definitely have to get to Nagano in order to take the bullet trains.
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02/17/2012 20:49
Seung
Hi ... great site. Need some travel advice. My wife and I will be vacationing in Japan for 7 days (coming from Okinawa). No agenda. We arrive early morning 4 March into Narita Tokyo and plan to depart late 10 March out of Kobe. How do you recommend we best maximize our 7 day stay??? This is our first time to mainland Japan. We want to visit the "must see" places at a moderate pace (with great food:)! I noticed you put great emphasis on Kyoto. Is there an easy way to get to/from Kyoto to Kobe airport? Thanks SO much for any advice you can provide!!! Seung
03/12/2012 09:10
Seung, I am so so sorry for the delay in responding. We haven't had very good internet over the last month so I haven't been able to respond to comments. I know that you're already in Japan so I hope that you had a wonderful stay. Please let me know if I can ever help again and I'd love to hear about your trip to Japan. Sorry again!
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02/18/2012 23:10
Paul Kim
I really enjoyed your article on Japan Rail Passes. I have a question that you might be able to answer. I am off to Japan next month for 8 days, I'll be splitting my time there between Tokyo and Kyoto. From what I gather it will be cheaper for me to buy 2 single rail tickets Tokyo to Kyoto, and Kyoto to Tokyo instead of a 7 Day Japan Rail pass. The only catch for me is I need to purchase my rail tickets on my American Express card so that I can activate my travel insurance (flights have already been paid for on the Amex), do you know if the Rail Ticket offices in Tokyo and Kyoto accept Amex?
03/12/2012 09:41
Paul, Unfortunately, I don't know whether they accept AMEX. You might try calling their rail offices to find out. Also, as boku mentioned below, if you're going to take the Narita Express as part of your 7 days, then it might be worth it to get the 7 day rail pass, even if you're only doing a roundtrip ticket to Kyoto.
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02/25/2012 04:24
Thanks for the detailed post! We're heading to Japan in late April/ May. Want to get your opinion on our rough itinerary and whether the JR is worth it. We have 3 weeks to split among Tokyo - Nagano - Kyoto - Osaka with day trips to Nikko and Nara in between. Any advice you can provide would be much appreciated! Thanks!
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03/12/2012 10:04
Kieu,

Okay, so let's assume that you're going to do something like this:
6 days in Tokyo - with a day trip to Nikko
3 days in Nagano
8 days in Kyoto - with a day trip to Nara
3 days in Osaka
Back to Tokyo for your flight (assuming that you're going to be flying from Narita)

First, I would definitely add Hiroshima to the list because it's a very short train ride from Osaka and both Hiroshima and Miyajima are fantastic places to visit. Similarly, you might want to add Hakone to the list because it's a short train ride from Tokyo and supposed to be gorgeous - we were sorry that we missed it.

Second, you're looking at something like this:
Narita to Tokyo: 2940
Tokyo to Nikko: 2520
Nikko to Tokyo: 2520
Tokyo to Nagano: 7970
Nagano to Kyoto: 19,510 (because you have to come back through Tokyo to get to Kyoto if you want to use the Shinkansen service the whole way)
Kyoto to Nara: 690
Nara to Kyoto: 690
Kyoto to Osaka: 1680
Osaka to Narita airport: 14,680

So, in total about 53,200. If we add another 3,000 for miscellaneous trips, that gets you to around 57,000 Yen.

The Rail Pass costs 57,700 Yen. If you add more destinations, then, yes, it's definitely worth it (and in your case, I would definitely add Hiroshima, Miyajima, and Hakone) but if you don't add destinations, it'll be a close call. Definitely let me know if you have other questions about this because I know that this is an expensive and very confusing part of planning travel in Japan.
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03/21/2012 00:04
WoW!!! This is awesome! Thanks so much for the detailed info. I'm not sure if we want to take it slow or add on more stops but I think we should at least put Hiroshima on the map. ;) Looks like we might be better off booking as we go from the looks of it. This is great. Thanks again for all the help.
07/12/2012 16:42
Harry
Akila, this is by far the best source of info for JRP details!great read.

We are heading out to japan in Aug 12-25 (13night from s).

Question, we fly from London to haneda airport and then fly back out from narita airport...will we be able to use JPR both airports?

Also we are not sure how much travel outside of Tokyo we will do but at a minimum we will do the following :-
-Haneda to Tokyo
- Various trips around Tokyo..does the JPR permit travel in and around Tokyo?
- Tokyo to hakone
- Tokyo to Kyoto
-Kyoto to Tokyo
- Tokyo to narita airport

Wondering what the JPR guru would say?:-)
03/02/2012 17:19
boku
If someone arrives at Narita, they can take the Narita Express with the JR pass. With that cost, a 7 day JP pass will be paid for (saving 3780yen) even if a person only goes on one round trip from Tokyo to Kyoto.
03/11/2012 14:53
Boku, that's a great point. Thank you so much for letting me know - I'll add that to future calculations!
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03/20/2012 04:30
T
Hello JR Pass Guru,

Thank you for the wonderful article... I was planning to travel to Japan in April end for a week to 9 days and have a below tentative schedule...

April 24th - Fukuoka,
April 25th - Hiroshima
April 26th - Tokyo
April 29th - Kyoto
April 30th - Kyoto
May 2 - Osaka

Would you suggest me to get a 7 day JR pass ? Appreciate your kind advice... Many Thank in advance,
04/13/2012 12:13
T, I'm so sorry for the delay in responding. I didn't see this post until today. You're going to save a ton of money by getting the railpass. Without the pass, you would spend 47,760 Yen, while with the pass, you'd spend 28,300. It's a great savings! Have a wonderful trip to Japan!
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03/20/2012 18:26
Using Hyperdia and planning your route in there can help figure out whether the Japan Rail Pass is right for you. It's great flexibility really and if you plan on making more then a few legs it's definitely worth it. If memory serves the 7 day rail pass is around the same price as a Tokyo - Kyoto return trip, puts things in to perspective.
03/24/2012 08:24
jen
Hi!

My family booked 6 nights at a hotel in Osaka, but we'll be doing daytrips to Kyoto, Kobe, possibly Nara, and Tokyo. Is it advisable to get the railpass? I read that your friend, Jess, purchased it and used it for 2 weeks? However, I assume she slept in different cities.
Thank you!
04/13/2012 12:19
If you do the 7 day pass and don't include Tokyo on the trip, then you would spend only 3160 Y on individual tickets and 28,300 Y on the rail pass, for a 7 day pass.

If you add Tokyo to the mix, then you would spend 31,660 Y for the individual tickets and 28,300 for the railpass.

So, the Railpass is only worth the purchase IF you go to Tokyo. Hope that helps!
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04/01/2012 22:48
AnneMarie
Hi Akila,

I am traveling to Japan in a few weeks and am planning to purchase a railpass for 14 days as I am planning to travel to Yamamoto. My plan is to start in Tokyo for a few days, then travel to Kyoto (2 days), Hiroshima (2 days), then on to Yamamoto for four days. Then back to Tokyo and Yokohama. Does this sound like a good plan?

Thanks for your response.
04/13/2012 12:02
Yep, this works. If you purchase individual tickets, you'll spend 49,330 Yen, but if you buy the RailPass, you'll pay around 45,100 Yen. I think it's a good deal. Have a great trip to Japan!
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04/14/2012 23:52
May Jayne
Hi,
We are planning an 8-day trip to Japan in Nov 2012. Our flight gets in to Osaka and depart from Osaka as well. We are planning the following: (4 nights in Kyoto, 2 nights in Kawaguchiko and 1 night in Osaka)

Day 1 : Arr Osaka, go straight to Kyoto
Day 2 : Kyoto
Day 3 : Kyoto - Nara &/Himeji
Day 4 : Kyoto - Arashiyama
Day 5 : Kyoto - Fuji Kawaguchiko
Day 6 : Kawaguchiko
Day 7 : Kawaguchiko back to Osaka
Day 8 : Fly home from Osaka

Would you recommend the JR 7 day pass, or separate passes?

Thanks.

Regards,
May
04/28/2012 03:37
May, Okay, so here goes:

Osaka airport to Kyoto - 960 Yen
Kyoto to Nara - 610 Y
Nara to Kyoto - 610
Kyoto to Arashiyama - 430
Arashiyama to Kyoto - 430
Kyoto to Kawaguchi - 13730
Kawaguchi to Osaka - 14260
Osaka to Osaka airport - 620

Meaning that your total cost of individual tickets would be 31,650 and you would save money buying the 7 day pass (even if you aren't able to use it on the last day to get from Osaka to the airport).
04/28/2012 03:38
May - one more thing, though. This itinerary is super hectic and you might not have much time to see anything (especially because there's so much to see in Kyoto itself) so I'd definitely think about whether you want to slow down the pace. Kyoto is an amazing city!
05/20/2012 10:34
May Mah
Dear Akila,

Thank you for your advice. We have thought it over carefully, and think that we should leave Mt Fuji for the next time, when we are flying in to Tokyo instead. We will spend more time in Kyoto and perhaps do day trips to places of interest around Kyoto. This will give us more time to walk about, or explore on bicycles !

Thanks again !

Regards,
May
05/23/2012 07:43
May, wonderful! It sounds like a fantastic itinerary. Have a great time in Japan!
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04/20/2012 23:18
Mari
wow-looks like this has been active for a long time so i thought i'd see if i could get some support too!

I'm looking at the following itinerary
day 1: land at Narita airport in Tokyo and continue to Nagoya
day 2 and 3: nagoya to see a friend
day 4 and 5: Kyoto
day 6: Hiroshima
day 7: tokyo disney to meet a friend
day 8-9: tour Tokyo
day 10: pack
day 11: fly out

is this even possible and should i get the 7 day rail pass?
04/28/2012 03:47
Mari, So you will definitely save a lot of money if you buy the 7 day railpass and start using it on Day 1 and finish using it on Day 8. You'll have to buy individual tickets from the 8th to 11th, but that shouldn't cost too much. So, here's the run-down:

Narita to Nagoya - 12180 Y
Nagoya to Kyoto - 5640 Y
Kyoto to Hiroshima - 10990
Hiroshima to Tokyo Disneyland Station - 18800 Y
Tokyo Disneyland to Tokyo - 460 Y

This totals 48070 which is significantly more than the Railpass price of 28,300. Have a great trip!
05/02/2012 16:33
Andrew
Heyy, just read everything and very surprised you are still posting on the board! Could you help me out? I am traveling to Japan for 3 weeks on May 16th!!
Breakdown:
1st week: Staying with Friend in yokohama. Plan to sight see in yokohama and tokyo.
2nd and 3rd week: Staying with different friend in Osaka. Plan to travel around Osaka and Kyoto within these two weeks.

Would you recommend 7, 14, 21 pass? or anything at all??
05/21/2012 11:47
Andrew, eeks! Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner on this. I know you're already in Japan but, hopefully, it worked out for you. I wouldn't have recommended buying the railpass because you don't know exactly where you're going and you'll mostly be based in two different cities. Hope you're having a great time in Japan!
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05/11/2012 23:07
Sade
hi! i'll be studying in japan this summer for 6 weeks from end of may to mid july. the price of 2 21 day passes is insane for my budget.

i'm not sure about my itinerary...i mean, i'll be staying in tokyo, and staying in mobara for a week (then back to tokyo) but other than that i'm not too sure.

with my budget and uncertainty of where i'll be visiting, should i just skip out on the jr pass?
05/23/2012 10:14
Sade, Given that you're not sure exactly what you'll be doing, I would not recommend getting the rail pass. I think you'll be better off just buying tickets separately or if you know that you want to travel for a week or two, you could always buy one of the regional passes.
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05/15/2012 21:43
C LOPEZ
HI THERE, THIS ARTICLE IS GREAT. I/M THINKING ABOUT WHETHER GETTING A 14 DAY OR 7 DAYS JR PASS. I HOPE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS ONE.
ITINERARY LOOKS LIKE THIS.
DAY 1 ARRIVING NARITA AFTERNOON
DAY 2 TOKYO
DAY 3 TOKYO
DAY 4 KAMAKURA
DAY 5 NIKKO
DAY 6 HIROSHIMA
DAY 7 MIYAJIMA
DAY 8 KYOTO
DAY 9 NARA
DAY 10 KYOTO
DAY 11 OSAKA HALF DAY THEN OFF TO TOKYO
DAY 12 TOKYO MAYBE HAKONE?
DAY 13 TOKYO
DAY 14 NARITA BACK HOME

DO U THINK THAT GETTING 7 DAY PASS WILL SAVES US EVEN MORE MONEY? AND WE WILL PAY OUT OF POCKET DAY TRIPS SUCH KAMAKURA, HAKONE?
DOES THIS ITINERARY LOOKS REASONABLE?
THANKS SO MUCH!!
05/24/2012 14:03
So, for 14 days, your total cost for individual tickets will be 56,980 Yen, compared to the rail pass cost of 45,100 Yen.

Since you're not sure whether you're going to do to many trips outside of Tokyo, you could buy the 7 day rail pass and tack on individual tickets for the remaining days. However, it might not be worth the inconvenience of having to buy those separate tickets (especially because the Tokyo to Narita roundtrip tickets are quite expensive), so I would suggest buying the 14 day Railpass.
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05/24/2012 20:11
Akila-

You are are like an angel of Japan travel planning. I'm making my first trip there at the end of next month to do some teaching and am trying to figure out the transportation options. Maybe you could give me one of your most excellent analysis:

- Arrive in Tokyo, need to leave for Kyoto the next day
- 6 days in Kyoto (would like to do a day trip or two but not sure where - any suggestions?)
- return to Tokyo, 5 days in Tokyo (maybe a day trip from here - same story.)

I'm not interested in trying to run around and see a whole bunch of temples. I like to be leisurely and just take a place in. I prefer to try and stay off the beaten path.

I came across a Japanican e-voucher for a round trip high speed ticket Tokyo-Kyoto and a one day sightseeing pass (21,000) but it says "non-reserved" which makes me nervous because I do have a meeting I need to keep in Kyoto and need to make sure I can get on a train on that specific morning.

What do you think? E-voucher? Railpass? Day trips you recommend?

Any suggestions will be most appreciated.
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05/29/2012 15:07
J. Brown, I totally want to create business cards now with my title as "Angel of Japan Travel Planning." :) Thank you - that's got to be one of the best compliments I've ever received on this site!

Okay, so, here are a couple of thoughts for you:

First, from Kyoto, the most famous day trip is, of course, to Nara. Nara is a lovely town and very peaceful and nice to walk through. I won't say that it's as spectacular as Kyoto but it's a great place to enjoy some nice scenery and a few very relaxed temples. Osaka is also a good day trip from Kyoto though Osaka doesn't have as many "attractions" as Kyoto and Tokyo.

From Tokyo, Nikko is a good day trip (but I would only go there for the day and would not suggest staying overnight).

If you wanted to see a bit of Japan's natural scenery, you could stop at Hakone on the way from Tokyo to Kyoto and stay a night or two to see the Mount Fuji area.

All this being said, you're definitely not going to need a JR Rail Pass because you won't be moving around enough to make it worthwhile UNLESS you did something like this:
Day 1: Arrive in Narita, train directly to Kyoto
Day 2: Kyoto
Day 3: Kyoto
Day 4: Kyoto to Nara; Nara to Kyoto
Day 5: Kyoto
Day 6: Kyoto to Osaka; Osaka to Kyoto
Day 7: Kyoto back to Tokyo
Day 8: Tokyo
Day 9: Tokyo
Day 10: Tokyo
Day 11: Tokyo

With this itinerary, you would spend 30,120 on individual tickets and 28,300 on the Railpass if you bought a 7 day Railpass from Day 1 to day 7 and then the rest of the days, you just used individual tickets. Of course, the problem with this is that it makes the front part of your trip a bit rushed.

The Japanican voucher sounds like a really good deal to me. A roundtrip unreserved seat from Tokyo to Kyoto and return costs 25,420 Yen. Generally, "unreserved" means that you don't get a reserved seat and there is the possibility that you might have to stand the entire way (which would be quite a pain considering that it's a 2 hour journey). However, unless you're going on a holiday, the weekends, or during rush hour, you'll normally be able to find a seat. I would recommend trying to get onto a Shinkansen Hikari train rather than the Shinkansen Nozomi train because the Hikari has 5 unreserved carriages versus 3 unreserved carriages on the Nozomi.

So, this is all a very long-winded way of saying that I think the voucher is going to be the best deal for you and then you can just buy individual tickets to the other locations. Hope that helps and definitely let me know if you need any other advice!

(And, I might very well take you up on that Brooklyn yoga offer because we'll be in Brooklyn next September. :))
05/28/2012 09:57
Claudia
Hi Akila! :) My family and I are planning to go to Japan for a week in June, but we're a little unsure of where to go. So far, all I have is that we're going for 8 days, starting in Tokyo. We'll spend a day there. I have a host family in Osaka, so we want to visit them and the area surrounding them for about three days. So, two questions. Do you have any suggestions on where to go on the way to Osaka from Tokyo? Also, I guess would the JR pass be worth it? We'd need it for stops on the way to Osaka, then around the Osaka area, and then for our return trip back to Narita airport.
Any input would be appreciated!
05/29/2012 13:48
Claudia - I've got lots of suggestions, of course! The Tokyo to Osaka corridor has some of the most famous sites and cities in Japan, including Kyoto, Nara, and Mount Fuji. I personally think that Kyoto is a must see --- it's simply one of the most phenomenal cities in the world and I've never heard anyone regret going to Kyoto. In fact, I usually hear the opposite, that people wish they had spent more time in Kyoto (we've got a lot of posts on Kyoto on our site so feel free to browse around - but here's a good one to start: http://theroadforks.com/worldtrip/japan/kyoto_in_photos)! From Osaka, you can take easy day trips to Nara and Kobe. It is also possible to day trip from Osaka to Kyoto, so I would definitely check with your host family and find out whether they are planning on taking you to Kyoto.

Also, there are great high speed trains between Tokyo and Kyoto and Kyoto and Osaka, so the itinerary below will really help you maximize your time in Japan.

So, if you do the following:
Day 1: Narita to Tokyo
Day 2: Tokyo to Kyoto; Kyoto
Day 3: Kyoto (I wouldn't suggest any less than 2 days in Kyoto because there's so much to see in the city)
Day 4: Kyoto to Osaka; Osaka
Day 5: Osaka
Day 6: Osaka
Day 7: Osaka to Tokyo (I've put this here so that you can maximize your 7-day RailPass)
Day 8: Tokyo to Narita airport (this wouldn't be included in the RailPass)

If you have more time, you could always add in destinations, including Hakone to see Mt. Fuji and Nikko which isn't all too far from Tokyo.

As far as the Rail Pass goes, you're not going to save a lot of money by using the RailPass and might even lose a little bit. Individual tickets would cost 28,890 Yen, while the RailPass would cost 28,300 --- so you'd save maybe $10 and you might even end up spending more because you'd have to pay for the shipping on the RailPass. If you know for certain that you'll be heading out of Osaka to other cities like Nara and Kobe, then it might make sense but if you're not sure, then you'll be about breaking even on the Rail Pass.
05/30/2012 04:39
Ladysensei
Hello Akila!

Can I just say this is an amazing post! Thankyou so much for doing it! I just need a little hand.

I'm heading to Tokyo in a few weeks and just wondering if a rail pass is worth it. I'll be staying for 11 days and going to - Saitama (for a concert), Tokyo for 5 days, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima then back to Tokyo. My partner is also coming. Should I get one?

Thanks!! ^^
06/03/2012 00:01
Robert
Great post. Cleared a lot up... But for me I might be right on the edge, My wife and I plan on going to Japan for a week. The trip will be mostly Tokyo area (Shinjuku, Shibuya, Roppongi, Akihabara, Odaib, etc). We would probably go to Mitaka and as well as Kyoto or a day.

Would it be worth it for us? I figure if we use the JR trains instead of subway, plus the Kyoto tip, we would be close to value of the pass.
06/09/2012 13:16
Aziz
Hello Akila,

First , thank you very much for this post .

Second, i need your help . I coming to japan for the first time by the end of August 2012.

My plan is :

Day 1: narita to tokyo
Day 2 : tokyo
Day 3 : mt fuji trip
Day 4 &5 : disney land and disney sea
Day 6 : tokyo
Day 7 : tokyo to kyoto
Day 8 : kyoto
Day 9 : kyoto
Day 10 : kyoto to Osaka
Day 11 : osaka
Day 12 : osaka ( trip to Nara )
Day 13 : osaka
Day 14 : Osak to Tokyo
Day 15 : Tokyo to narita airport

Is this a good plan and is the 14-day rail pass worth it ?

I really appreciate your help
06/10/2012 02:34
kayechow
Hi my friends and I (8 ladies) will be in Osaka for 5 nights. We will be visiting places on our own. Would you recommend we purchase a JR pass to get around? We have already booked a tour guide to take us on a one day tour to kyoto.
07/05/2012 12:14
Kayechow, do you know where you are planning on going from Osaka? It's a great place to see a number of different other cities. If you can give me an approximate itinerary, then I can help you decide whether you need the JR Railpass.
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07/04/2012 20:06
Dave
Hi! Thanks for the great description and analysis of the JR pass. I'm in the process of trying to decide whether or not to purchase them for my wife and I. We will be in the Tokyo area for only one week, during which we are planning to climb Fuji and perhaps take a couple of day trips around the area. I can't decide if it'll be worth it for us. We probably won't be going any further from Tokyo than Nikko and, of course, the Mt. Fuji area. What do you think?
07/05/2012 07:20
Dave, Thanks! If your plan is mostly to stay around Tokyo and see a few sites, then it definitely won't be worth the cost of you buying it. Have a great time in Japan!
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07/10/2012 14:50
Hi! thanks again for the brilliant post. Much appreciated!
Still...confusion looms...
My wife and I are travelling to Japan in November looking something like this; Tokyo - Kyoto - Hiroshima - Miyajima - Tokyo. Spending a good part in Tokyo itself. Also, being from Orlando, Florida my wife would also like to visit Disney Sea :). Is the pass worth it?

bonus question; is there any way to get to Okinawa cheaply that you know of?

Thankyou!
07/10/2012 16:42
Colin
I am planning a trip at the end of Feb, 2013. I was wondering if I should get a rail pass.

I am planning on landing in Tokyo, going to Nagano/Hakuba for skiing, then Kyoto and flight out of Osaka. I do not mind taking buses and in fact I prefer them sometimes for price. I will reverse my flight plans if the tickets for transportation will change.

Thanks a TON
07/15/2012 09:42
Yvonne
hi!thank you for the comprehensive JR analysis! Brilliant job!
As a first timer to Japan in early Sept, i plan to take the flight to Tokyo, day trip to Takayama (prob a day trip to Shrikawa-go), Kyoto, Osaka and finally to return frm Tokyo.
It will be a 8 days trip in all.
Will i be be better off with the JR pass or should i just do a spot to spot purchase?
Your advice is much appreciated!
08/09/2012 09:13
Karen
Hello and thank you for this discussion thread. You must be getting quite tired of answering rail pass questions, but I have learned a lot.

My husband and I are going to Japan for 2 weeks for work/play and are trying to balance cost and TIME, because the Rail Pass does not allow us to use the fastest trains.

Itinerary:

Sept 29: Land at Narita, take train to Tokyo
Oct 2: Train to Kurashiki, time may matter here
Oct 3: Train to Hiroshima
Oct 5: Kobe
Oct 8: Move to Kyoto
Oct 10th: go to Osaka for the day but back to Kyoto at night
Oct 13: Home from Kansai Airport

We may have 1-2 days trips, but likely not more than that.

So, is the rail pass worth it, but at what price in terms of extra time on trains compared to fastest shinkashen?
08/13/2012 10:07
Tim
Hi! Thank you for being so helpful! If you don't mind, I'd like to ask your opinion about me getting a JR Pass - I'll be on a 7-days trip to Japan in mid-Sept, and our itinerary looks like this:
Day 1) Haneda airport (early morning)- shinkansen to Kyoto
Day 2) Kyoto - Nara
Overnight bus to Tokyo
Day 3-7) Tokyo (Ikebukuro, Akihabara, Mitaka (Ghibli Museum) and so on
Back to Haneda airport.

Do you think the JR Pass will be fully utilized? :D
09/01/2012 07:29
Olga Sempio
Hi I was wondering if you could help me analyse my costs.I tw ould be very much appreciated!

day 1-5: Narita airport to toyko and then stay in toyko for general siteseeing
Day 6-7: toyko to Hakone
Day 8: hakone to kyoto
day 9: day trip to nara, return to kyoto
day 10: day trip to hiroshima, return to kyoto
day 11: kyoto to toyko
09/12/2012 01:10
Fammy
Hi,
This forum is great- thank you! We're visiting Japan for the first time, and I tried to use Hyperdia, but thought I'd run our itinerary by you for some advise.
FromTokyo to Kanazawa, Kyoto, Nara, Wakayama, Koyasan, Hiroshima, then back to Tokyo. All in 17days. So, from what you say, it would be best to activate the card once we're ready to leave Tokyo. But is it really worth it, as the Kansai area train pass in under $100 for 4 days, and there are quite a lot of private trains which we would have to pay for. The big trip back from Hiroshima-Tokyo is 18700yen. This would be our longest stretch, but we'll still have to pay a supplement for the Nozomi (I think)....
I just need another brain to help me, please...Thank you!
10/25/2012 11:12
Pedal
Hi, I think this forum is going to solve my headache of whether to buy or not buy 7 days JR pass. Here is my itenary:
23 December: arrive at osaka
24 December: osaka
25 December: osaka to kyoto
26 december: kyoto to tokyo
27 december: tokyo to mt fuji
28 december: mt fuji to tokyo
29 december: tokyo disney sea
30 december: tokyo
31 december: tokyo to narita

Pls kindly help me to decide whether I should buy JR pass or not, and if yes from which date should i start to make it worthed.

Thanks so much
10/25/2012 15:35
Kris Leong
Wow, Akila you are quite impressive with responses and knowledge! haha

Can I ask if everything here looks correct price wise?

Narita to Tokyo: 2940
Tokyo to Hakone: 3940
Hakone to Kyoto: 11550 (shinkansen fare + seat fee found on hyerdia)
Kyoto to Nara: 690
Nara to Kyoto: 690
Kyoto to Osaka: 1680
(Then fly back to the US from Osaka)

From those numbers, I don't think the 7-day JR pass is worth it for me.
Oh, also, do I have to buy any of these passes in the US (won't be getting 7 day pass, but will need the JR lines on some of the transportation above)

Thanks in advance!
Kris
11/14/2012 01:02
Jr pass is a lot more convenient compared to other transportation. Although it has a big difference when it comes to rates, it is really worth it. Travelers must consider this vehicle.
11/22/2012 09:01
Jonelle
Hi I will be going to Japan in December for 8 days. I fly into osaka than go to Tokyo from Tokyo to Kyoto and back to Tokyo. We will spend four days in Kyoto and four days in Tokyo. Do you think it's worth getting a JR pass?
01/06/2013 23:17
scalli
Nice post.

Where did you get the fare figres? They seem a little inflated to me. I pulled the following out of Hyperdia for my upcoming trip (in 4 days time) and found that the non-reserved tickets purchased on the day come out cheaper..

Kansai Airport >> Namba ¥1,390
Shin-Osaka >> Hiroshima ¥9,440
Hiroshima >> Shin-Osaka ¥9,440
Shin-Osaka >> Kyoto ¥1,380
Kyoto >> Togari Nozawa-Onsen ¥10,390
Togari Nozawa-Onsen >> Tokyo ¥8,190
Tokyo >> Haneda Airport ¥620

That's a total of ¥40,850, which is cheaper than the 14 and 21 day passes. For my itenery I would need to 21 day pass.
01/08/2013 15:09
We also used Hyperdia to pull up the figures but it might be that the fare prices have changed since we did these itineraries. It's been a little while since I ran those top figures!
01/29/2013 20:21
John
Hi akila

My wife and I are traveling to Japan on the 1 st of feb really short notice I know but we are having troubles planing a itinery we already purchased the rail pass and want to get our money's worth what do you recommend the last three days of our 10 night stay will be in Tokyo as we are meeting friends there.

We really want to go to Kyoto,Hiroshima,Osaka,Okinawa,mt fuji.

Thanks
02/07/2013 06:35
Valy
Hi Akila,

I was wondering if the 7 day JR pass makes sense for my parents that are coming to visit me for 2 weeks...?

Here's a rough plan:

day 1 - Narita- Tokyo
day2-5 - Tokyo
day 6 - Nikko
day 7 - Tokyo
day 8 - Tokyo-Kyoto (shinkansen)
day 9 - Kyoto
day 10 - Nara
day 11 - Arashiyama
day 12 - Kyoto
day 13 - Kyoto-Tokyo (shinkansen)
day 14 - Kamakura
day 15 - Tokyo - Narita

Does this make any sens? :)

Thanks a lot!
02/09/2013 16:35
michelle takenishi
aloha,
I am testing this to see whether I will receive a response. I am planning a trip to Japan and would like some advice regarding Japan railway pass.
02/25/2013 14:37
Michelle, what sort of advice would you like?
02/13/2013 21:38
You mentioned that Patrick is a "a guy who creates intricate Excel spreadsheets with built-in currency converters to manage all of the receipts accumulated during a year long trip." I have one of those! And, I have made a public Google Docs copy for anyone to use. If interested, check it out and compare. I'd love to know who has the more geeky spreadsheet. Find it at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ar85DmoKZH7_dHNwazM0WXVfYmxKaTg5enJrTlNKYWc#gid=3

Oh, and thanks for the rail pass post. I am heading to Japan in April and will definitely be buying one, though not sure yet if a 7-day or a 14-day.
02/25/2013 15:18
Jeff, thanks for posting this! I'm sure it'll be very helpful to other folks. And have an amazing time in Japan and let me know if you have any qs about your trip!
03/05/2013 17:48
Ed
Hi Akila

I was wondering if 7 Days JPR would be good for me.

I will be over in Japan from 20/03 - 30/03, landing in Haneda on the midnight of 20/03.

Plan:
- 21/03 - 23/03 will fly to Sapporo
- 23/03 - 27/03 land in Haneda and travel to Kyoto/Osaka/Nara region
- 27/03 - 30/03 travel back to Tokyo and spend time in Tokyo before flying back

Can I use the JPR all around the cities that I want to go?

From your opinion would it be worth it taking a "city tour" on each of the cities, cost wise ranging from 10,000 - 15,000 yen for full day? Or can I go around myself using the JRP?

And would I be able to bring my luggage when travelling from Kyoto to Tokyo vice versa?


Thank you,
Ed
03/05/2013 17:49
Ed
Hi Akila

I was wondering if 7 Days JPR would be good for me.

I will be over in Japan from 20/03 - 30/03, landing in Haneda on the midnight of 20/03.

Plan:
- 21/03 - 23/03 will fly to Sapporo
- 23/03 - 27/03 land in Haneda and travel to Kyoto/Osaka/Nara region
- 27/03 - 30/03 travel back to Tokyo and spend time in Tokyo before flying back

Can I use the JPR all around the cities that I want to go?

From your opinion would it be worth it taking a "city tour" on each of the cities, cost wise ranging from 10,000 - 15,000 yen for full day? Or can I go around myself using the JRP?

And would I be able to bring my luggage when travelling from Kyoto to Tokyo vice versa?


Thank you,
Ed
03/11/2013 17:00
Ed, You're looking at something like this:
Haneda to Kyoto: 13,620
Kyoto to Tokyo: 13,220
Tokyo to Narita airport: 2,940
An ordinary Rail Pass for 7 days would run 28,300, so you'd definitely save money even if you only use it on Honshu Island. The rail system runs ALL over the country so you'll be able to use it everywhere, including in all of these cities (though, once inside, you might end up walking or using buses or local trains which are not covered on the JR Pass.) I think the city tours would mostly help you see the main sights in a city in a short timeframe --- given that you don't have very long in each destination, doing a city tour might be a good idea for you. You can definitely do everything on your own but city tours will help you maximize your time.
03/26/2013 16:58
Kichigai Mom
Three of us are going to be travelling to Japan in late July-early August (I know YUCKY WEATHER) for two weeks. Because we are using frequent flyer miles, we are flying into Fukuoka. Our plan is to spend a few days in Nagasaki with friends, then to Kyoto for one or two days, and the rest in Tokyo. We'll have to travel back to Fukuoka from Tokyo to go home. I'm totally confused about whether we need to get a JR pass for this and if so, is it worth it to upgrade to the Green pass since I'll be with my two grumpy teens. Thank you for your advice!
04/12/2013 14:23
SL
I will be traveling in Japan for approximately 7 days and am trying to figure out whether or not to get the 7 day JR pass. I'm reading tons of info online, but it gets to be quite confusing.

I will be flying into Narita airport, and I believe I can take the train from the airport to my hotel in Tokyo? Then I plan on going from Tokyo to Osaka, Osaka to Kyoto and then Kyoto to Tokyo before heading back home...is the 28000 yen pass worth it? I thought it would be, but upon further research I am not sure.

Thank you so much for any insight!!
04/18/2013 19:25
SL, yes, the pass will definitely be worth it for you because you're going to so many different places in such a short time! And, yes, you can go from Narita into Tokyo. Have a great trip!
04/18/2013 16:47
Andrew
Hey Akila, I have some quick questions since you seem the be the guru!

I am traveling to Japan for the first 3 weeks of July (1-22). I have a free place to stay in Tokyo (My girlfriend has an internship there, yay for free lodging). My first question is, do I still have enough time to get the rail pass if my trip is 2.5 months away?

Second, I plan on spending a weekend in Kyoto for sure. I am also interested in day trips to Nikko, Kamakura, Yokohama, Kawagoe. I would like to minimize overnights outside of Tokyo, but I can do a few. So is a pass worth it if I can still get one?

Thanks for any suggestions and info!
04/18/2013 19:17
Andrew, you definitely still have time to get the rail pass. If you're planning on doing all of these trips in one week, then, yes, it definitely would be worth the expense to get the rail pass. If you're going to spread it out over the 2 weeks, then probably not.
04/20/2013 21:08
Mari
Alright, I've decided to just ask you because I can't seem to figure it out. I'll be traveling with my sister to Japan (so excited!) this June/July. I don't know what pass to get or whether its worth it for me. We're landing in Fukuoka, staying one night, and then going to Tokyo for four days, Kyoto for eight, Hiroshima for two, Osaka for three, and then back to Fukuoka to wwoof. Help me please!
04/25/2013 14:12
Yes, definitely get one! If you can squeeze your Fukuoka ride back on the 14th day (right now, it looks like you'd be going back on the 15th day), then a 14 day pass should work well for you. Otherwise, you won't save as much money using the 21 day pass. This is a huge itinerary with lots of traveling so the pass should save you a ton of money.
04/25/2013 18:56
This is a really well detailed and researched article. It's definitely worth doing some research on Hyperdia to see if the Japan Rail Pass is cost effective for you. I believe the Highway buses are now not included in the JR Pass from April 1, 2013 - so that also may impact the decision making process.
04/29/2013 14:20
Thanks Chris for that update.
04/27/2013 16:04
cris
hello and compliments for the article, i have read many answers but dont seem to find an answer for myself.
i will be in tokyo for 14 days of which 3 in kyoto traveling by night bus. my question is, since i will be staying only in tokyo (saitama) visiting tokyo itself ,is the JR pass worth? thx so much
04/29/2013 14:20
Cris, No, it wouldn't be worth the expense. Have a great trip!
05/02/2013 15:43
Jeff K
Hello! This was extremely helpful info. MY family of 4 will be based in Kyoto 12-26 July 2013, and thank to your blog, will purchase "ordinary" 7 day passes, because it looks like our planned roundtrips from Kyoto to:
Nagano
Tokyo
Hiroshima
Plus the one-way trip to Osaka for the return flight to US
would add up to far more than the individual tickets.
If I'm wrong let me know' otherwise thanks for all the valuable trip info and "bonne route!"
05/02/2013 15:59
Jeff, That looks right to me, especially if you're doing all of that in a 7 day time frame. Sounds like a fun but busy trip!
05/11/2013 12:47
May Hwee
Hi Akila,

Could you help to see if a 7-day JR pass would help me save some money?

Day 1 - Kansai Airport to Kyoto
Day 2 - Kyoto > Arashimaya
Day 3 - Kyoto > Uji
Day 4 - Kyoto > Takayama (I guess through Nagoya?)
Day 5 - Takayama > Kamikouchi
Day 6 - Kamikouchi > Osaka
Day 7 - Osaka > Nara
Day 8, 9 - Osaka

Thanks much in advance!!! :)
05/16/2013 09:43
Looks like it's worth it for you to get the 7 day pass.

Day 1 - Kansai Airport to Kyoto - 4470
Day 2 - Kyoto > Arashimaya - 860 (round trip)
Day 3 - Kyoto > Uji - 460 (round trip)
Day 4 - Kyoto > Takayama (I guess through Nagoya?) - 9680
Day 5 - Takayama > Kamikouchi - Doesn't look like you can get there via Rail
Day 6 - Kamikouchi > Osaka - doesn't look like you can leave via rail --- you'd have to take a bus to the nearest town and I am not entirely sure what that would be
Day 7 - Osaka > Nara - 1560 (round trip)
Day 8, 9 - Osaka -

So, in total, around 23,000 (including taking the train inside the cities) which is more than the ordinary 7 day pass.
05/12/2013 18:03
Wing
Hi Akila:
Your discussion blog is a big asset to all travelers to Japan.
Would you mind if I can show you my tentative itinerary to Japan. It will be in July.

Day 1: Narita airport to Tokyo
Day 2: Sleeping in and walk around Tokyo
Day 3: Tokyo to Mt. Fuji. Climb to the top
Day 4: Visit friend in Tokyo
Day 5: Tokyo to Osaka
Day 6: Day trip from Osaka to Hiroshima/Miyajima and back.
Day 7: Osaka back to Tokyo
Day 8: Leaving Tokyo to Narita Airport

Thanks a lot,
Wing
05/15/2013 13:38
Sounds like a really fun trip but I would not recommend the rail pass. You'll spend more on it than on just buying individual tickets.
05/17/2013 10:33
lpc
Hi Akila,
We are a family of four will be visiting japan in july for the first time.we will fly in to haneda airport at night. Wl stay in tokyo for six nights with side trip to hakone. Wl then leave for osaka after that and visit kyoto maybe two days and nara day trip n fly off from kansai airport after five nights. Is it worth to get the jr rail pass?

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